Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 11:02:30 -0800 From: Daniel Yourg Subject: Strength_List: pull throughs > >Dan, can you describe a pull-through? Using a pulley machine, attach a rope like for tricep pulldowns, or strap, or handle to the bottom pulley. Stand away from the machine with back to the machine. Reach in between legs and grab the strap with both hands. Take a few steps out. Can do these with straight legs, bent legs, or squat style. Different variations put different stress on lower back and hams. Basically reach down and stretch, then stand up straight. ("Pull-throughs")Holding onto stap the whole time between your legs. Hopefully I am describing this adequately. Dan Yourg Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:15:28 -0600 (CST) From: nccozine@webtv.net (Noble Cozine) Subject: Re: Strength_List: simulating glute/ham raise To do a pull through,stand facing away from a lat machine.With a single handle,bend over grab handle with both hands,take a step or 2 away from machine then let cable pull back .Then pull through using your hips and low back.Its like finishing a deadlift.Hope this helps. Cozy Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:31:28 -0600 From: Keith Hobman Subject: Re: Strength_List: pull throughs Ryan wrote, >So Dan...this cable isn't going to come up and catch me square in the balls is >it?? > You do it right and it'll look to all the gym like you've reached down and grabbed yourself by the gonads. But you'll be okay. Your body instinctively will protect those vital organs ... - - Keith Hobman Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:58:13 EST From: "John Sukkar" Subject: Re: Re: Strength_List: Pull Throughs Keith, After reading most of the posts on the list about "pull throughs". I was excited by the exercise, so I tried it. For all that my opinion may be worth, I found that it is a great execise for my glutes. Although, I did it after my deadlifts (5x5 @ 315lb), so my back kind of sprung erect with each rep. Due to that, I'm not sure wheather it is very good to do them straight after my deadlifts. What are your thoughts on this? Do you do them in the same workout as your deadlifts? b.t.w The cable did come close to my balls :-)) but I'm sure if you carry out the exercise in a controlled manner you shouldn't have any problems losing them heheh. Best Ragrads, John S Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:21:50 -0400 From: "Jeffry Deigan" Subject: Strength_List: Re: leg press Steven Dana wrote: >I gotta tell you Ken. I absolutely positively disagree with this >statement. In fact, the leg press is the example I give people when >trying to explain to them that the abs and back are vital to the >squat. Whats the difference between a squat and a leg press? The leg >press removes the back, abs and stabilizers from the movement. Thats >why you can press more than you can squat. Good technique in this >case has nothing to do with why this person (and almost everyone else) >can leg press more than they can squat. > >steve dana What you are saying is true Steve. Also, usually when people leg press they are no where near parellel and usually pushing at a 45 degree angle (which reduces the effective weight to about 70%). Many years ago, I was reading M&F and the BBer being interviewed said something to the effect of, "When people see how much I can leg press, they tell me I should break the world record in the squat. I thought about it and this just isn't important to me now." Even being a stupid teenager I thought, "Jeesh, what a poser. He won't try to break the squat record because he knows he can't." Jeff Subject: Re: donkey calf raises From: "Allan Smeyatsky" Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:21:56 -0700 Bill asked: >> In a recent article, an exercise was suggested that is called a 'Donkey Calf raise.' Does anyone have insight into how this exercise is performed? << Hi Bill, A great exercise. There are 2 ways to perform this exercise. 1. Stand on a block/stair/platform and bend over from the waist. It would be a good idea if there was something for you to hold onto. Now ask your partner to straddle your back, i.e to get onto your back as if he was mounting a horse/donkey. Now do a calf raise. Sets of 15 to 20 are very good. 2. Donkey calf machines also exist that mimic the version above. It's a fantastic machine that allows you to shift a lot of weight. Enjoy them! It's a pity that my gym does not have such a machine and I do not train with a partner so thus cannot do them :( Allan